from what ive learned there was a hand written note, regarding disposal of the body discovered in hindleys prayer book written by Brady, which read check WH periodically for movement, from this Topping decided he was referring to Wessenden Head (hence shiny brook) along with the other markers i previously mentioned. International Journal of Social Science and Humanity, Vol. Her body was naked, and her clothes were found buried at her feet. First off, I need to address that many reports incorrectly state that Brady and Hindley strangled all of their victims to death. SOUVENIR BOOKLET 1950 - 1870; GREENFIELD RESERVOIR - construction 1897 - 1902 . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I used to go to the house very regularly after I got to know them. and our Back to Pattys evidence for the prosecution: I remember Christmas Eve, 1964. MOORS MURDERS; 1950 to 1900. ISBN 978-1-399-09878-6. Lesleys body was partially exposed upon the moor - my belief is that due to the snow on the ground on the morning of 27th December 1964 (the morning after she was killed), that may have caused some issues with her burial. My mother was there too, then my mother and I went home. In November 2002, at the age of 60, Hindley suffered a heart attack at Highpoint Prison in Suffolk and was taken to West Suffolk Hospital at Bury St Edmunds where she then developed a chest infection and died two weeks later. On one occasion I think Myra operated the tape recorder while I was there. Brady spent 19 years in jail before he was sent to Ashworth high security psychiatric hospital in 1985, where he remained for the rest of his life. Refreshing walk with some great views across the Yorkshire moors. The features were now obscured by post-mortem change. Moors Murderer Ian Brady, who was jailed in 1966 along with his accomplice and girlfriend Myra Hindley for the murder of three children, is believed by Police to have revealed the location of the body of 12 year old victim Keith Benett in documents released to his legal advocate Jackie Powell. We sat in the van when we got there. TRIGGER WARNING: This post discusses autopsy results in detail. through its association with the Moors Murders - a reputation which its bleak appearance has helped to reinforce. Myra said she didn't go to his house because his mother kept her talking. A moderate circular walk that starts along the canal towpath before gently contouring around the sides of Pule Hill. An author Russell Edwards reportedly alerted police after making a discovery on the moors. Above ground this is among the harshest landscapes in Britain. Later, the hunt for the bodies shifted to the Wessenden Moors at Meltham. Alan Bennett's solicitor has just released a statement. He really missed the ability to walk the moors. The route crosses through Marsden village before following the track along the Wessenden Valley. Wall Mirrors With Storage. There is a very steep incline near Butterley that is challenging so be aware. She was one of at least three children who they took up there for visits, although she was the only one who served as a witness for the prosecution at trial. Keith, 12, was murdered in 1964 by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, one of five of their young. The soil in the region was apparently more sandy than in the grave on the opposite side of the road already investigated (i.e. ^ "The brother of the 'lost' Moors Murder victim on his meetings with Myra Hindley, and a life spent looking for Keith". The track along the Wessenden Valley is uneven underfoot, and peters out to a footpath once you reach Wessenden Reservoir. Refreshments could be found at the Isle of Skye Inn, on the A635 above Wessenden Head reservoir, which has since disappeared. The right arm was beneath the body; the hand being near the right knee. There were occasions when they brought soil back from the moors. Patty Hodges - the little girl who unintentionally helped bring the Moors Murderers to justice. Discover some of the best walks in Yorkshire, from rugged Pennine beauty spots to parkland and meadows perfect for a family stroll. Cross the roundabout and walk up Binn Road. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Marsden Moor Office and Information Room, The Old Goods Yard, Station Road, Marsden, West Yorkshire, HD7 6DH 01484847016 marsdenmoor@nationaltrust.org.uk Our partners We've partnered with Cotswold Outdoor to help everyone make the most of their time outdoors in the places we care for. Brady died, aged 79, in Ashworth Hospital on May 15 this year. He remembered the W/H of the disposal plan and radioed through to Ashton police station. The Moors murders were carried out by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley between July 1963 and October 1965. Sorry your first post didnt get put up last night, it was my fault. Roadblocks were set up outside the Ford Inn and the Huntsman Inn on the A635, and in Wessenden Head Road, Meltham. It was built just after 1829 and was named as the Wessenden Head Inn, at the time reputed to be the highest inn in Yorkshire (Tan Hill later had, and still has that title). The moor was the burial site of at least four victims of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, the Moors murderers. Brady initially claimed W/H stood for Woodhead, which is nowhere near Saddleworth Moor. Brady later claimed that Hindley strangled Lesley with a length of silk cord. - Lesley Ann Downey: uncertain. Take a short, linear walk along the Huddersfield narrow canal leading to a picturesque picnic spot at Eastergate packhorse bridge. Keith, 12, was snatched 58-years-ago by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley and the case has never been resolved. Myra suggested I should go with her down Longsight. HODGES I don't know. Keep your eyes open and let us know at once if you see anything suspicious.. They went to see The Nuremberg Trials at the cinema on their first date. Also pictured, Detective Chief Superintendent Peter Topping of Greater Manchester Police GMP, who was in charge of reopened investigation. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. When he got to Dallas Street, he was lured into a van by Hindley who asked him to help her with some boxes. We stayed there until about 12.30 am. Lighted Wall Mirror. "It is far too early to be certain whether human remains have been uncovered, but out of respect for Alan Bennett, who we regularly maintain contact with, we have informed him of this potential development.". Your email address will not be published. The body lay at a depth of approximately twelve to eighteen inches. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I read it out to Myra. The underpants were also rolled down in a band about an inch and a half broad at about mid-thigh level, and appeared to be knotted at the back (highlighting the brutality of the sexual assault John had been subjected to). 307 0 obj
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One group stood with a makeshift noose and a placard demanding the death penalty.. I get hundreds of spam messages in the comments each day and sometimes I miss one or two genuine ones in amongst them. Track is uneven underfoot throughout. Like Lesley, she lay on her side (but on her left); facing the road around 150 yards away, and less than 100 yards from where Lesley had been found. A stream of water ran through the grave (which lay either very close to or directly in Far Rough Clough); thus Johns body was badly decomposed and had to be identified through clothing. Neglected by his mother Peggy, he was raised by foster parents in the Gorbals from the age of four months and turned to petty crime when he reached adolescence. Keith Bennett is believed to be buried in this area. Interesting point Hindley didnt know the names of the locations on the moors at the time of the murders only when she was taken back!!! 21st October 1965: Body of John Kilbride (12) discovered in a shallow grave near Sail Bark Moss. First Group Bus Services No 182, 183, 184 or 185 from Huddersfield; 184 from Oldham. Manchester City have nine games left of the season as the treble of the Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup remains on the cards. I do wish they find him before I go to the next world. She has set up a Searching For Keith appeal to continue her efforts to find her sons body. There are certain indications that it could be linked.. Myra took some sandwiches. Police have been digging on Saddleworth Moor for murder victim Keith Bennett after reports of human remains being found. David Kirwan, the solicitor acting for Keith's mother Winnie Johnson, said police had not been in touch about any discovery. The Moors Murderers: The Full Story of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. When i first started driving over the A635 I used to sometimes imagine keith stood in the road,the same picture as the one everyone knows with the glassess.Knowing what ahppened on the moors and being a very rational person I just put this down to auto suggestion and over time stopped seeing him.many years have now passed Have they SEaRCHED Far RouGH Clogh area>>>> OSGB SE 03200 06000 area yet? Moorland safety advice after people have barbecue on moors. It was about 1.30 am when I got in. also known as the Wessenden Head Inn, is shown on the 1854 6" O.S. But for those growing up in 1960s Manchester, where the grisly crimes were committed, the actions of Brady and Hindley bore a very real threat. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.828687837147172.1073741851.597048676977757&type=1. I did not see either Ian or Myra on Boxing Day. I had some whisky, some gin and some wine. With the development of the railway to Marsden in the 19th century, the Wessenden Valley became a popular walking route with the more adventurous visitors. I remember that the time they made the recording I was reading from the Gorton and Openshaw Reporter of 1st January 1965; it was an account of a little girl who was missing [Lesley Ann Downey]. Geoff who was a strong character never lost his interest in music, art and photography or his sense of humour and the delight . His body has yet to be found. The afternoon was blisteringly hot as I stepped through the bridleway gates and began the downhill walk towards Wessenden Head Reservoir, the water body sitting at the top of the Wessenden Valley. Her head was in the normal position. It also made it impossible to rule out natural causes as a cause of death (although this is obviously not the case - the other evidence from the case confirms that she was murdered). On A62 Manchester Road between Huddersfield and Oldham. Lesley Ann Downey's body was found the day after after Pat's visit, 70 yards into Saddleworth Moor from one of the spots she had pointed out. Experts were at the site where the body was found, and they have begun an intensive search of the area. did they ever work out possibly how brady worked out his burial sites. GMP Force Review Officer Martin Bottomley said: At around 11.25am on Thursday 29 September 2022, Greater Manchester Police was contacted by the representative of an author who has been researching the murder of Keith Bennett, a victim of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. "The site was assessed late last night and, this morning, specialist officers have begun initial exploration activity. 339 0 obj
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In 1966, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley were convicted of the abduction, sexual assault and murder of Lesley Anne Downey (10), John Kilbride (12) an d Edward Evans (17). Police have been digging on Saddleworth Moor for murder victim Keith Bennett after reports of human remains being found. She was friendly with the couple (Hindley even gifted her one of David Smiths dogs puppies), and was taken by them on numerous trips to Saddleworth Moor throughout the latter part of 1964 and early into 1965. She later testified as a witness for the prosecution at trial - Ive typed her entire evidence up because it is really interesting: I am twelve. The pair were found guilty in 1966 of torturing and killing John Kilbride, 12, Lesley Ann Downey, 10, and Edward Evans, 17. - Edward Evans: cerebral contusion and haemorrhage caused by axe blows, accelerated by strangulation by ligature. map. Her left arm was crossed over her front and her right lay along her side; her knees were bent up towards her abdomen. In order to submit a comment to this post, please write this code along with your comment: fa7a3fef1ba9c79a5bd913355244e293. About two months ago whilst driving back from Holmfirth as i passed the Ford pub and started to head over the moors I saw an orange arrow in the sky pointing down with the word HERE Here the path takes you past waterfalls and over bridges and gives you views of the beautiful Wessenden Reservoir below. 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Cookie Notice In October 1965, following their arrest for the murder of Edward Evans in Hattersley, the bodies of Lesley Ann Downey and John Kilbride were discovered buried on the moors. The body was enclosed in a white cotton blanket which had been knotted. hi He said that Myra's gran had said that me and my friend Margaret had been in the garden. The moorland in this area does have a dark and sometimes forboding feel to it, but as a place to find solitude and feel far removed from the urban jungle of Greater Manchester it represents an excellent option.I parked in the layby at the site of what was once The Isle of Sky Inn, Black Hill lay shrouded in low cloud and the car park at Featherbed Moss had been almost invisible beneath the thick blanket of fog. We welcome questions. 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Their victims, Pauline Reade, 16, John Kilbride, 12, Keith Bennett, 12, Lesley Ann Downey, 10, and Edward Evans, 17, were buried on Saddleworth Moor. I said: "We weren't in the garden. He said: You were. I said: Only over the wall. He said: 'Don't let me cop you in the garden again.' It was given to me sometimes by Myra and sometimes by Brady. Something went wrong, please try again later. A report in the Examiner said: The killer was flown to the snow-lashed moor by police helicopter as armed police sealed off all roads leading to the area. He spent some time in Strangeways as a boy of 17 and, after his release in November 1957, he took a job as a stock clerk at a Manchester chemical firm Millwards Merchandising. For further details, see section marked Facilities. h{k$_)`HMBhFvGm_8'YYiY3H&3H8r]qCb)z;)YD]h>>viy .MA;=9E}_MbyX^~`?c'k~L/*MUZK}Pb{F1gBmm\DCU:Ej `2Pd! Reporter Neil Atkinson wrote: The Ripper - sadistic killer of five Yorkshire women - has claimed a victim in Huddersfield.. Those of the feet were still held within the socks. The courts sent the young Brady to Manchester to live with his mother and her new boyfriend, Patrick Brady, whose surname he would later assume. A few more (albeit unsubstantial) theories, providing that she was killed in the bedroom: Lesley could have been smothered with the pillow or mattress on the bed, or she could have been smothered or suffocated manually, or by either the quilt/blanket, a bed sheet, a pillowcase or the scarf and handkerchief that were used to gag her prior to her death.
Hindley died in 2002, aged 60. 16th October 1965 was the day that the body of 10-year-old Lesley Ann Downey was discovered upon Saddleworth Moor. "Naturally, the family are hoping that Keith has been found after all these years and their tireless efforts to find closure. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Notice: It seems you have Javascript disabled in your Browser. endstream
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He had been lured into the house by Hindley on Brady's request. Greater Manchester officers have been actively searching for Keith's body for the past three years. People are free to share their memories and thoughts about the case as they wish. When you reach Wessenden Head reservoir turn around and retrace your steps to return to Marsden. I would very much like to get in contact with you. In a statement today Greater Manchester Police said: We have always said that GMP would act on any significant information which may lead to the recovery of Keith and reunite him with his family. course could be just coincidence. Do you ever get that? Tags: A635, Keith Bennett, Manchester Evening News, Moors Murders, Police, Saddleworth Moor, www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196727/Pictured-Chilling-photos-Moors-Murderer-Myra-Hindley-standing-victims-grave.html, I have taken interest in the latest news regarding Keith Bennet and have been looking at the above link which pictures Hindley sat by a stream ,is this location Birchen Clough (near saddleworth moor) and has a search been done around this area as this picture(link below) looks similar to where Hindley is sat, whether this will help in the search for Keith Bennets Body is I do not know , Holme Cloughalso looks similar has a search been done around these areas?www.panoramio.com/photo/22803219 We both stayed in the car after it had stopped, and eventually Ian joined us. Hindley swayed forward a little and closed her eyes when sentenced, the Examiner reported. Mrs Johnson hopes her Searching For Keith appeal will raise enough money to allow a new, private search of the moors to take place. 14 2 r/MoorsMurders Keith was just 12 when he was murdered by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley in 1964. 4, April 2017, Cultural Representations of the Moors Murderers and Yorkshire Ripper Cases, 'Drowning in Here in His Bloody Sea' : Exploring TV Cop Drama's, Dead Cities, Crows, the Rain and Their Ripper, the Yorkshire Ripper: the Red Riding Novels (1974, 1977, 1980, 1983) of David Peace As Lieux DHorreur ______, University of Birmingham Foucault and True Crime. Keith, 12, was murdered in 1964 by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, one of. The murders, named after the Yorkshire Moors where the victims' bodies were buried, stuck fast to the public consciousness. A spokesman said it was not clear whether the remains were human, adding: "Inquiries are on-going.". Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. (information gathered for the below post originated on my side from the trial transcript, Carol Ann Lees One of Your Own and Geoffrey Garrett and Andrew Notts Cause of Death), 7th October 1965: Body of Edward Evans (17) discovered in Hindleys spare bedroom at 16 Wardle Brook Avenue, Hyde, upon the arrest of Brady for the murder. But Ian Brady's solicitor is reported as saying a body has been uncovered. It is far too early to be certain whether human remains have been uncovered, but out of respect for Alan Bennett, who we regularly maintain contact with, we have informed him of this potential development. The Moors Murders.Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Think what you like Im not anutter or attention seeker just saying what i saw, Hello Suzanne, Police sources said the discovery was not thought to be connected to the body of Moors Murders victim Keith Bennett. From what I understand, the search at Wessenden Head only came about when Topping (who took over the inquirey in the 1980s) misinterpreted a note found at the time of the arrests then made Hindleys map fit his theory. David Smith - Hindley's 17-year-old brother-in-law - unwittingly witnessed the last murder, which took place on 6th October 1965 in the couple's living room that they shared with Hindley's grandmother. The gran also lived at No 16; she was called Mrs Maybury. Was gun found on Saddleworth Moor part of a stash belonging to moors murderer Ian Brady? Keith's remains have never been found. On the evening of June 16th 1964, Myra was at home in Bannock Street. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. He read Mein Kampf as part of a burgeoning obsession with Nazi Germany and also developed an interest in sexual perversion and cruelty, devouring erotic literature written by Marquis de Sade. On July 1 1987, after more than 100 days of searching, police found the body of Pauline Reade buried three feet below the surface, around 100 yards from the place where the body of Lesley Ann Downey had been found. I found there was a man and woman living at No 16. Reports of todays memorial service can be viewed at the Manchester Evening News website here, and at the BBC here. It was in September 1964 that I came to live at 12 Wardle Brook Avenue with my family. Brady claimed manual strangulation. Natural causes could unfortunately not be excluded either. Marsden Moor is a one pawprint rated place. This is not true. The upper part of the trunk was twisted somewhat to the left. It's an easy route under 3 miles that makes a great reason to get outdoors in nature. We went up on the moors about once or twice a week. "My client is keeping an open mind on the latest report having regard to earlier such reports that have raised expectations but not resulted in finding Keiths body. Find out more about the National Trusts ongoing partnership with Cotswold Outdoor as our exclusive walking partner. The head also faced to the left. It was about 11.30 pm when Myra called to ask if I could go out on to the moors. Both times we started off from the same place as I showed the police where Myra used to stop the van. I saw a tape recorder in the house. Ian helped a group of 12 of us with varying levels of fitness negotiate the Yorkshire three peaks in a decent time. This walk is not suitable for wheelchairs due to the uneven terrain and some steeper sections. Past searches for Keiths body have concentrated on the area around the streams known as Hoe Grain and Shiny Brook. I had no drink after my mother came to the house. tanglewood middle school yearbook wessenden head moors murders. At the end of the 14-day trial, a jury found both guilty of the murders of Edward Evans and Lesley Ann Downey and Brady alone guilty of the murder of John Kilbride. There are a number of conflueces and waterfalls in the Holme/Rimmon/Birchen Clough areas at the head of Greenfield Brook. The body was bent up with the legs brought up to the chest and the arms folded across the body. They were called Puppet and Lassie. There's nowt in the papers, is there? They had all been murdered during 1963 and 1964. Saddleworth Moor and the area around will, unfortunately, be forever connected with the Moors murders. 3 March 2019. Marsden Moor Estate Office, grid ref: SE047117. Today we remember how the Examiner reported the chilling murders carried out by the Yorkshire Ripper Manchester Evening News. 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Keith was snatched from the street and murdered by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Has anyone the exact location where the bodies were buried please.? It was played back to me what had been recorded. Edward would no doubt have ended up buried somewhere on the moor later that day, had David Smith (brother-in-law of Hindley and witness to the killing) not reported the murder on that morning. Just four weeks before Hindley and Brady were arrested, the death penalty was abolished in the UK. Alan does not wish to be disturbed at this time and we would ask that his request for privacy is respected. About three weeks after I had stopped going around with Ian and Myra I climbed over a wall at the side of their house - a lot of people do that. "We are at the very early stages of assessing the evidence which he brought to our attention, but have taken the decision to excavate an area of land with a view to determining what lies there. Before my mother came to 16 Wardle Brook Avenue that evening I had been there with Myra and Ian alone. entering the moors on the opposite side of the road, it fits perfectly to be holme/rimmon/birchen clough down to greenfield BROOK ( a mirror image of hoe grain to shiny brook etc ) including waterfall etc. Saddleworth Life - Police are treating the discovery, reportedly a skull, with caution. Explore the many walking trails on Marsden Moor, try Nordic walking for fitness, or join a guided walk to learn about the landscape with a National Trust volunteer. Enoch and his brother James ran a foundry in Marsden and developed a cropping machine that reduced the need for hand croppers in the textile mills and were central to the Luddite movement.